Milleniummon fans: I can't believe toei pulled such bs on adventure 2020 by making wargreymon 1v1 zeedmilleniummon and beat it with a genkidama. At least it can't get any worse than that.

Toei: hey guys, here is the new Ghost Game's villain of the week, Zeedmilleniummon!

Milleniummon fans:.............WHY!!!???

Well look on the bright side.
At least it was a sealed state Zeed and he was given a plot convenient weakness to take care of him which is more in line with how your supposed to deal with a being who is practically an immortal, constantly reviving, space-time warping singularity. Plus, it looks like Moon will probably be some kind of plot device going forward. However, it does suck to see Zeed go from practically the top of power among digimon to mid series Boss and now a just Villain of the week .
Well there's always the Xros Wars manga where his mere existing warped the flow of time and he was only beaten by undoing the xros that made him.

Super hero Comic book fans: "You get used to it"

You get used to superheroes always being revived some way too. lol.

EXACTLY!

Me a Marvel / DC comics fan: "First time?"

Superhero fans, who are used to seeing the previous "main villain of an event comics appearing as a Monster of the week":
"First time?"

Superhero comic book fans, who are used to seeing the previous "main villain of an event comics appearing as a Monster of the week":
"First time?"

Can say that for a lot of Digimon. Mean Myotismon felt real weak for an ultimate and spanned quite a bit of length in the otiginal to deal with.

WarGreymon beating ZeedMilleniummon was believable... 2020 WarGreymon wasn't a stupidly nerfed WarGreymon for drama purposes like Adventure one. Due to Adventure, people forget/never realized how stupidly OP WarGreymon actually is with his abilities. Adventure was more about humans than Digimons, Digimons were plot devices there if anything. 2020 tried to make things more lore accurate. Notice that his entry mentions he's "the strongest dragon warrior", which puts him over the Digimon like Dorbickmon Darkness Mod and other ultimate(mega) level Dragon Man type Digimon.

Zeedmileniummon and Wargreymon are both Megas. It makes sense that they're on the same level of power to fight against. Also going by a weakness Wargreymon is a Vaccine type while Zeedmileniummon is a virus so even by that standard Wargreymon would have the upper hand. Since Zeedmileniummon is only a mega that means there is definitely stronger digimon also. On the contrary Miyotismon was an ultimate but felt weak.

Also to note BlackTailmon appearing again. Maybe they're responsible for Zeedmileniummon's appearance. As we know a lot of bad sh*t goes down when it involves anything connected to Hiro's father and black virus digimon. lol.

That's not really how Digimon works at alll. Level's are general indicators, but not determined power levels. Lucemon is the simplest example of that.

https ://digimon-arcana.fandom .com/wiki/Category:Attributes Just to note about attributes. It should make sense too as it's also sort of the same formula for an actual computer. Virus corrupts data. and the Vaccine which is technically the anti-virus protects the data and gets rid of the virus.

They do indeed have counters to each other. Also that may not be how the show works but the cards were pretty noticeable about following suit. That also came before any video game.

Yes. The thing I didn't talk about being incorrect is indeed generally correct. But they're not hard counters by any means; they simply have an advantageous point. By no means does a Vaccine's trait enable it to naturally conquer any virus, or even necessarily a virus of the same stage or lower.

On related notes, that is a factor in the show, as well as how they work on the original v-pet handheld video games, which aren't predated by any other Digimon material except concept art. It's part of their base design and lore.

They're completely hard counters by the way basing on arcana and evolution stages. On the contrary the only reason why I state their personality doesn't effect their alignment of good and evil is because there has been virus' that weren't evil. On the contrary Gammamon is virus digimon with an entry stating it is an intergalactic being. I forget if it was Gammamon or Agumon that states if it is abused enough it'll become evil and become a a rare black version. On the contrary it makes entries that black (virus) versions of some of the digimon are rare in some of the entries as well. On the contrary like I also stated it seems that the rules generally follow the card game according to that wiki. The lore doesn't help in the matter as hell. As generally the vaccines types will always win against viruses in all lore and mechanics and rules behind the universe. In contrary Myotismon is suppose to be one of the most threatening digimon. Ghost game made him look pathetic.

Also, "Since Zeedmillenniumon is only a mega that means there is definitely stronger digimon also." is inaccurate. Mega is the final stage, depending on material. Zeedmillenniumon is the strongest stage.

Mega/Ulimate is the last official stage, while Ultra/Super Ultimate is an extra classification, but the same stage. Not that it would matter because Millenniumon, even in his first form, has been given the classification of Ultra/Super Ultimate in most material that contains it.

https ://digimon-fans.fandom .com/wiki/Digimon Here an even better description on the attributes. Got the evolution stage wrong or more 2 wikis have it at different evolution stages but in regards they're all at the same evolution stage.. The wiki explains the Arcana being rock paper scissors even meaning which beats which and virus are beaten by vaccine. Like I stated before and shown before. By actual sources explaining it that's how the digimon is suppose to work. Mixed up on the ultimate mega stuff but either way you go at Wargreymon should by the rules of it beat Zeedmilleniummo. Siriusmon is also a vaccine type as well as Diarbbetmon and they are both on the same evolution as Zeedmilleniummon so no matter how overpowered the shows try to make him look he should be easily beaten due to his attribute disadvantage and in the new one he got double teamed by an attribute.

On the contrary being Data Vaccine or Virus also often tends to play into the characters personalities not just weakness as well like Data being Vaccines tending to be defenders protecting data and beating viruses and the viruses tending often to be edgy and evil and corrupting data and data being either or. On the contrary this doesn't mean virus are always bad either.However like I stated previously it also makes sense given that's sort of how computers work with viruses and anti-viruses.

Why are you talking about personalities? You made a paragraph about nothing for no reason other than to fill space.

Stop dropping worthless links. This one is a single person's terrible fan wiki from 2014(made and abandoned in the span of a week from copied material) and it still proves you wrong as you misquote it. Even your links says that attributes can be moot based simply on a difference of experience. Bonus, the arcana link is just a roleplay wiki.

Stop typing and read long enough to learn. I'm not going to correct every random new falsehood, or congratulate you for a random correct fact amongst a sea of willful ignorance. You even argue yourself wrong as you talk about how vaccine should just always beat any virus, while at the same time complaining that Vamdemon/Myotismon got knocked out too easily by a Vaccine type of the same level. Even you seem to think you're wrong.

Here's the fan-wiki that your link stole snippets from. https ://digimon.fandom .com/wiki/Digimon_(creature)

Why are you literally attempting to fight for no reason? Sounded like you initially just didn't know much and went on the offensive. Consistently relating it to a single game you played instead of the entire series and initially on how all the stuff worked for like the last 24 years. The arcana is big part of how the whole thing works and their evolution stage matters but you pointlessly have been fighting with a lot of the sources in front of your face to back up exactly what I've been trying to explain to you. On the contrary your argument is pointless and the links are an indication on how it works. Guess you're too simple minded also to go over it. The least you could go go over is the attributes. Not my fault you know how to write pointlessly and baselessly. I tried to be civil with you. LoL. Guess you're just another pointless troll. Not my fault and you won't get a reaction so you can attempt to raise your low self esteem somewhere else if that's what you trying.LoL. In regards since I gave you all the info that mattered there's not much else to say asides your wrong. Enjoy. LoL.

I didn't mention a video game, you did. Your gaslighting is refined but still rough; and dedicating entire sentences to "LoL." isn't exactly subtle.

I'm sorry if it sounded like it's a problem that your wrong. You can be wrong till the cows come home. You can call me a troll and project because you're wrong and it hurts. It's all fine.
Just stop trying to correct people with the wrong information. That's all. Don't actively try to make other people stupider.

You actually did at the start of the conversation and basing on levels that don't exist in neither the show nor the card games. Possibly even a few games. On the contrary the wikis information is practically stuff we knew like 24 years ago. They haven't really changed it much on that and the digimon adventures went into a lot of the details on it's own. It also makes sense too if you know how a computer works. Seems ghost game pretty much makes humans as equivalent to data type digimon with how much viruses corrupt humans. In contrary it just makes sense that they consistently are beating monsters on the same evolution level with attribute advantages over the viruses. The show just blows it out of proportion on how strong viruses appear over how they generally make the vaccine types appear. Also by a lot of past games and the show Myotismon has still has been treated like one of the biggest threats and they continuously reused him as a big bad between the games and anime anyways. On the contrary he was beaten pretty easily in Ghost Game and made outy like a joke in comparison to anything previously.

You know the post history is here right? Seriously, double-check the mentioning of video games. You might have confused my post with someone else's. I really can't tell if you're a compulsive liar or just confused.

And the "basing on levels that don't exist in neither the show nor the card games." was you again when you said "Since Zeedmileniummon is only a mega that means there is definitely stronger digimon also.", which is still before I said anything.

Also stated that one of the wikis stated mega and the other ultimate. On the contrary digimon even has it's own wiki to double check that and they were literally the same stage as each other. Also those aren't levels. However still look at the wiki it does explain it well how it works. Still ignoring the read I guess. Though it should be kind of be obvious how to follow it. I don't really care about the last word guy and have been trying to move on from this. I still suggest reading that last wiki entry. Particularly attribute.

Seriously check when you posted about levels. Which the show and card game never had. so when you state that it can only come from one place. On the contrary at this point I get you're just trolling and I'm just moving on. You may not like the wiki because it refutes your opinion but on the most part it's generally a fact. It can get editted but generally gets editted back by either the fandom or another user. Also fandom mods do tend correct it when it's changed.

The wikis have supported everything I've said, which is why I don't know why you think talking about them helps.

"Also stated that one of the wikis stated mega and the other ultimate. On the contrary digimon even has it's own wiki to double check that and they were literally the same stage as each other. "
You are actually talking about a different poster. That was Agumon-kun, not Forky. Also, Agumon-kun was actually saying 'Other Digimon of the Ultimate(Mega) level', noting the dub/sub terms to avoid a more understandable confusion. So you're trying to gaslight them to me by saying the same thing, and trying to point out that's why they're wrong.

And because you've been too angry and brainlessly self-righteous to realize this, "Stage" and "level" mean the same thing in this context. Digimon are not Pokemon.
You can have the last word; heck, you can double or triple post the last word. I just want to think anything got through that thick skull, not pwn your haxorz in your -epic internet showdown-.

People correcting you is not picking a fight. That's all on you. I do hope you'll find a calm moment that's long enough to realize this.

but they haven't and supported exactly what I stated and the rock paper scizzors that it has. You obviously didn't read it. Also supports relation to the card games. LoL. Least I read it.

You really still haven't, have you? You still haven't read the part where there are other factors like experience that make attributes moot. You can't even tell the truth about reading your own link.

"A Digimon can generally defeat an opponent regardless of attribute if it is stronger than the opponent in Digivolution level and experience." is part of your link, which you didn't read.
Compulsive liar, it is.

You still didn't read the attribute well did you. Stupid troll.

That was adorable. Almost a sentence too. Try not to get so heated in your youth. You'll get ulcers.

You've been getting mad this whole time from being wrong and when you read the wiki you didn't really read it either. Nice try on trying to provoke in the process. Your still a very stupid troll. LoL.

You don't need to lash out. You don't need to project on someone else. Just try to appreciate yourself. I'm sorry I didn't consider your reading problems in my responses.

Also, I should really point this out. "LoL" is "League of Legends". "lol", "LOL", even "Lol" is "laugh out loud". I know, the reading problems; but I still want to help.

Your trolling is showing and it was always obvious. Hence your the only one blowing up and you're the troll. Stupid troll. LoL.

I'm not calling you a troll. I know you can't help it. You just want to talk when every statement you make just seems so senseless.
I'm grateful I could be here to give you in attention you so sorely need. If repeatedly yelling "stupid troll" at your computer makes you feel like someone cares about you in some way, then I'm here to help. My cousin went through the same phase when they were scared about starting high school.

There are Millenniummon's fans?

You know shit gets serious when Angoramom gets terrified to the point he reveals his eyes. I also didn't expect we would see Zeedmillenniumon here, such a powerful digimon like him was a choice for a non-boss villain. Is this mean the final boss of this season is much stronger someone like Ordinemon?

We want galacticmon!

It doesn't have to be mindless beast like Ordinemon.
I think about some demon lord with 0 screen time - Barbamon.

At least, Hiro's father could be real villain, for now, but he will be already be in serious trouble in Digital world - Yggdrasil, Royal knights, Huanglongmon and Four Holy Beasts, Three Archangels.

Hiro holding MoonMilleniumon could easily become a plot device for Gulusgammamon and its Digivolutions: Regulusmon (Ultimate) and Arcturusmon (Mega).

I hope that they will let Gulusgammamon absorbs Moon=Millennium then evolves or something, because that would make Regulusmon be ridiculously strong.

Another digimon kill a human.
Hiro father really the blame for this.
Lives lost. Digimon never meant to crossworld
Rip girl.

I really really hate his dad.....so I'm fine him being the villain this whole time

Things got especially horror-like.

The dark tone of this episode, the characters's expression was good, it makes everything so much more murky.

And who would have thought that Toei would make ZeedMillenniummon the villain of this episode, even though they didn't show much about its destructiveness, the episode was still okay..

Yes. It reminded me of a Shikabane Hime episode.

What happened to Manami and Zeedmilleniummon i can only compare it to what happened to Betty in Adventure Time except Betty was able to take control of Glob, while here Manam couldn't

And also maybe a more "played for tragedy" take of what Kurata tried to do with Belphemon in Savers

I really hope Hiro and co tell Tohro and his sister what happened.....
sure that is gonna be an akward as hell conversation but i am pretty sure they need it.... especially if the research tohru is working at has potential ties to the digital world....

That serious sad moment, then the Mega theme kicks straight back in being all energetic and cheerful sounding was actually rather hilarious.
This ep would have been so much better if they didn't cheap shot Kiyo out of the battle, all 3 would have made it seem actually more achievable. I was almost convinced Gulus was gonna appear and get what he wanted to deal with it but then this would require the show to delve into two parters to get it all in. The first half was so darn creepy and they botched the second half with a serious rush job on one of Digimon's top tier threats.
Still that ending between the three of them was quite sweet, now if only they actually did things as a trio and stopped being singled or paired up, 90% of the time some one or two are missing but why do I suddenly get the strangest feeling that their story is going to end with them forming something like D.A.T.S from Savers.

If they forming up something like Hypnos (Tamers) or DATS (Savers) that would be really cheap move and copypaste.

I mean, with everything going on in Ghost Game, some kind of organization would be needed.

Just judging by what we've seen so far, some basement operation going full scale, helping digimon to settle in the human world, forming networks with all these little groups they know to keep getting info or if a mon needs something like sending them to Mummymon or Tapirmon and overall preventing them going wild or thinking of humans as food or batteries like a lot of rumours going round probably are like. Perhaps by the end of it, even figure out a way to send them back home and any that do go rogue or cause trouble, Gamma, Jelly and Angora can deal with them; they already have the likes of Ginyrumon and Airdramon for transport to get around.

That could be good but Ghost Game has one big problem - we don't have proper story line (episodes aren't really connected) and plot is missing.